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Monday, January 31, 2011

Seventy times Seven... Brand New Due 2-4-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCrgIDXVL-w


lyrics...

http://www.lyrics007.com/Brand%20New%20Lyrics/Seventy%20Times%20Seven%20Lyrics.html

18 comments:

Unknown said...

The song "Seventy times Seven" by Brand New goes into great detail of the singer's hatred for a former best friend. The basic understanding is that the singer feels despair and betrayal from a best friend of 12 years. The tone of the poem is vengeful, as the singer gives examples as to what he wishes upon his friend. From the lyrics displayed, it seems that the friend did something awful. One device used throughout the song is usage of rhetorical questions. The speaker asks "is this what you call a getaway" and "is this what you call tact". He mentions these questions multiple times throughout the song. The speaker also uses examples of ways for revenge such as hoping the friend drives home drunk and forgets his seat belt. Together these devices establish a vengeful tone.

Gavin said...

After reading "Seventy times Seven" by Brand New, I am left with the image of former best friends left in a conflict, and one of them [the speaker] cursing the other one out. They have been friends for twelve years, but apparently there has been tension all along the way. The speaker sets up an interrogative and spiteful tone. The speaker feels deeply betrayed by his friend, but now it seems as though he is trying to turn this betrayal around. He asks the his ex-friend multiple questions in order to bash him and how apparently weak he is. He is not holding back, stooping to the lowest level by asking how much of a spine he has. The spite is rooted in the speaker's own answers to his rhetorical questions. He insults his friend by saying that he's seen more spine in a jellyfish, more guts on eleven year old kids. These rapid insults during the chorus are obviously used as a mechanism to not only display how betrayed the speaker feels, but also to spite the ex-friend. He does not stop at the insulting rhetorical questions; he straight up tells him that he hopes that he dies in a drunken car chrash. All of the rhetorical questions and insults help to build a tone which is both interrogative, as well as spiteful.

Unknown said...

Brand New's "Seventy Times Seven" is a song full of anger and hurt. The speaker is extremely hurt and upset that his former best friend has given up and betrayed their friendship. He uses repetition of the question, "Is that what you call a getaway?" At first he asks it calmly, but then he uses exclamation marks at the end to show that he is screaming the question to his friend in misery and hurt. He also uses similies such as "You're as subtle as a brick in the small of my back" to exemplify how small and insignificantly unimportant the friend is to the speaker now that the friend has left. The tone of anger and misery is also portrayed by the speaker's harsh and tortured diciton. An example is when the speaker hopes "there's ice on all the roads" and that the former best friend thinks of him when he forgets his seatbelt
and again when his head goes through the windshield. The horrific imagery of the person practically dying in a car accident that the speaker wishes for shows that the speaker is so hurt and angery that it is making him dilusional.

kristen said...

In the song "Seventy times Seven" by Brand New, it is discussing the hatred for a best friend. The basic understanding of this poem is about the speaker feeling betrayed by their best friend. In the song the speaker says, "I remember I kept thinking that I know you never would And now I know I want to kill you like only a best friend could", which can only mean that the best friend did something that can never be forgiven for. The tone throughout this song is anger, because of the type of vivid imagery the speaker uses against the best friend. He sets up a picture of the best friend forgetting to put on their seatbelt and dying, "Have another drink and drive yourself home
I hope there's ice on all the roads And you can think of me when you forget your seatbelt and again when your head goes through the windshield." This image is very descriptive and shows how much anger the speaker has towards the best friend. Another example is when the speaker compares the best friend to a jelly fish and an eleven year old, "Cause I've seen more spine on jellyfish I've seen more guts on eleven-year-old kids." These two lines presents the image of how weak the best friend is and how angry the speaker is at him. Vivid imagery successfully backs up the tone of anger in this song.

Unknown said...

At first I thought this song was about a breakup because he says how "the night is beggin to tear him apart". But then he starts talkin about their friendship. I think he is bitter but also wants to show that he is moving on. He uses repetition saying "everyone's caught on to everything you do" and also "is that what you call a getaway?" I think he is trying to show that he is gettin over is because it was a sucky thing his friend did. Best friends are supposed to be loyal and not betray you.

Derek said...

The song "Seventy Times Seven" by Brand New concerns the speaker's hatred for their best friend. Through the use of dark imagery and diction, a very angry tone is conveyed. The imagery in this song is repeatedly dark, with the speaker saying things such as "I hope you choke and die", "hang yourself", "your whole life has gone to Hell", "more spine on jellyfish", "more guts on eleven-year-old kids", "your head goes through the windshield", and "as subtle as a brick in the small of my back". This dark imagery contains diction of the same kind: very dark. Numerous insults are thrown at this former best friend throughout the song, and this in addition to the dark and violent imagery stated above contribute to the tone and theme of this song.

Rebecca said...

Brand New's song "Seventy Times Seven" is about the speaker's feelings towards someone who has betrayed their friendship. The spiteful tone is conveyed with the use of vivid imagery to help portray the theme of a broken friendship. The image of the person searching his "cell for something which to hang" conveys the speakers intense hatred for his former friend and how he wants him to be locked up and to commit suicide. Comparing the best friend's lack of loyalty and honor to that of a "spine on jellyfish" and "guts on eleven-year-old kids" supports the speaker's negative opinion about this person who he recently found out was not truthful. With the gruesome image of the former friend's "head goes through the windshield", hate, ahger, and revenge is shown.
The friend's betrayal is now obvious to the speaker, which is conveyed with a "brick in the small of my back" that cannot be ignored. The speaker admits that he "left the frays from the ties you severed" when he broke their relationship, he left the speaker fallen apart, which causes the speaker to want revenge and adds to the hate and spite directed toward this person.

Colleen said...

The song Seventy Times Seven by Brand New concerns the speaker holding a strong grudge against his former best friend. You get the idea that they were friends for a long time but then the friend wronged the speaker in some way. The Speaker has not forgiven his ex best friends and wishes he would die. The tone of this piece is very hateful. The speaker has no remorse towards the ex friend. The author of these lyrics uses repetition to make sure what he is saying is being herd. He repeats many things to get his point across. The harsh phrases "Everyone's caught on to everything you do","I can't let you let me down again", and "I've seen more spine on jellyfish" are just a few examples of the authors use of repetition.

lindsaykeith said...

This song is about a speaker who has been hurt by his best friend. The tone is bitter hurt and vengeful hate. First the singer flat out says, "I hope you choke and die," and continues telling his friend to, "have another drink and drive yourself home and saying, "you can think of me when your head goes through the windshield." One rhetorical device the singer uses throughout the song is figurative language, making several comparisons. First, the singer says, "you're as subtle as a brick in the small of my back," a rather sarcastic comparison to show how much pain this friend has caused him. The singer also uses metaphors such as, "I've seen more spine on a jellyfish, I've seen more guts on eleven year old kids," again comparing the friend to different things in order to show what a let down/betrayal his friend has caused.

Amy Pistone said...

In the song "Seventy Times Seven" by Brand New, the main focus is on the left-over resentment that a friend still holds for his ex-best friend. The overall tone seems to be a loathing, hateful one full of past experiences - a gradual building up of anger. The main literary device that expresses this tone is the exaggerated diction. The speaker uses over-the-top words to describe his hate for his friend from the very beginning such as when he says he wants to "kill" him. He furthers this overexagerration by mentioning that he hopes his friend would "choke and die". These outrageous acts of violence imply an underlying meaning - it seems forced. His contempt for his friend seems forced when he describes how he's "seen more spine in a jellyfish", as it is a deliberate description to show how he's trying very hard to hate him, but he knows a part of him will always remember him for being his best friend. This idea is supported by the diction in the lyric, "when you say 'best friends' means friends forever", which proves that he is still hurt by his friend and that the entire song may have just been a result of anger versus true hatred. Overall, there is a hateful tone but there is a slight hint of hurt within the poem which is clearly seen through the use of diction.

Brian P. said...

Because I suggested this song, I'm not exactly going to analyze it because really, everything I want to say has already been said. Instead I'll discuss the basic understanding in some serious depth.

To understand this song fully, you have to have followed Brand New for quite some time. Essentially, this song was written for two people who personally wronged Jesse Lacey [Brand New's lead singer]. The first line of the song [Back at school... or someone breaking your heart.] depicts the scenario pretty well.

Lacey's girlfriend had cheated on him by sleeping with another one of his close friends, John Nolan [the old singer from Taking Back Sunday]. The product ended up becoming one of Brand New's most popular songs.

Now let's recall what I said about the first line. When he says 'despair or someone breaking your heart', he is referring to Nolan, who betrayed his trust, and his ex girlfriend who broke his heart. For the majority of the verses, Lacey is describing his hate for Nolan after betraying him, but as the music shifts from the punk driven chords to the more melodic bridge sequence, Lacey shifts his hate for Nolan to the pain he felt after being cheated on.

The lines 'Is that what you call a getaway...' are directed towards Lacey's ex as he is calling her out for cheating, and then trying to hide it.

The song shifts a final time for the 'Is that what you call tact' lines, where Lacey is addressing Nolan again, ending with the lines 'When you say best friends, it means friends forever'

The song ends violently as Lacey kicked over a rack of guitars in the recording studio as the song ended. Oh the angst...

FUN FACT- When Lacey found out Nolan slept with his girlfriend, he called him. Almost all the lines from the 'Is that what you call tact' verse were lines that Lacey shouted at Nolan through the phone.

katie said...

The song Seventy Times Seven by Brand New seems very resentful. The speaker says “Back in school they never taught us what we needed to know Like how to deal with despair or someone breakin your heart”, which sounds very upsetting. The lyrics here show that the speaker feels very bitter towards his “role models” in high school or adolescent years because they never prepared him/her for actual hurt. The tone overall is bitter and the speaker seems to be angry at a lot of people, places, and events. The basic understanding is that the speaker has felt betrayed by a friend that has been around for 12 years. One literary device is figurative language. In the lyrics, there are similes such as, “And now I know I want to kill you like only a best friend could” which compares the betrayal the speaker felt to the actions he wishes to take part in now. After reading Brian’s post, I can now infer that this simile and other metaphors throughout the song are comparing betrayal and his former best friend who did him wrong by sleeping with his girlfriend. Metaphors such as ‘Cause I've seen more spine on jellyfish I've seen more guts on eleven-year-old kids” now more in depth compare his friend to the scared demon that he sees him as. By comparing his friend to two things that are considered weak, the speaker further demonstrates how angry he feels and that he is now nothing but weak and “spineless” to the speaker.
-katie harris

Unknown said...

bana"Seventy times Seven," by Brand New, is a very powerful and emotional song. It tells of the pain and dispair that one best friend feels. He is hurt by his old best friend and hates him so much that he actually wishes death upon him. The tone of this poem is very hostile and resentful towards the speaker's best friend. The speaker gives insight to how aweful whatever his best friend did to him, by wishing such an aweful thing as death to come upon him. The speaker of this poem wants revenge on his old friend for the hurt that he caused him.

Unknown said...

This song, "Seventy Times Seven" is about how the speaker feels towards a former best friend. The speaker uses mysterious repetition to emphasize that the friend did something wrong and to tell them that everyone knows. The repeptition leaves some mystery as to what it is the friend did, making the reader want to continue listening to thesong. "Everyone's caught on to everything you do" is repeated again and again. The tone is one of vengence. The speaker is angry that their friend betrayed them in some spineless way. This is derived from "I've seen more spine on jellyfish". The theme is be a good friend.

Unknown said...

Chambers
The song “seventy times seven” by Brand New is about the speaker who has been betrayed by one of his friends. Everyone else has seen this friend’s betrayal and everyone now knows what he did to the speaker. The speaker gives the song the tone of hatred because of the friend’s betrayal. The use of rhetorical questions in the song emphasizes how angry the speaker is with his friend. It shows that the speaker almost can’t believe they have done that to him.

njagelski said...

This comes off to me as a very angsty song about someone complaining about the world. He is enraged by the injustice, on how school teaches him garbage he doesn't need. Towards the end of the poem, his hate becomes more centralized towards this one person. He discusses how everyone knows what they do. Perhaps a romantic link to someone who once destroyed him? Or maybe someone who he knows hates him but won't admit it. Seen more guts in an eleven year old indeed.

The repetition of the reprise represents how the problem is maddening him. He can't get it out of his head. Every line leads to the same conclusion like his life; nothing else matters compared to the situation with this person.

Alex Pearson said...

This song is about two people who used to be best friends. The singers enraged and vengeful tone is apparent through his use of metaphors and similes, comparing his friend to being "as subtle as a brick on the small of [his] back" and says that he's seen more spine in jellyfish." Also, the diction used is very simple and almost childish. This shows how stupid he thinks his friend is by using childish phrases such as "jellyfish", "friends forever", and "choke and die". His use of rhetorical questioning makes his sarcasm apparent as well. ("Is that what you call a getaway?" & "Is that what you call tact?") The powerful imagery of "ice on all the roads" and "when your head goes through the windshield" display his true hate for this person. Overall, the song clearly evokes a message of hostility and angst using different techniques.

Jake said...

Well, the song Seventy Times Seven by Brand New has an obvious negative tone. The speaker wishes for this person-who-is-held-in-great-disdain to find himself on an icy road, inebriated, and without a seat belt. The speaker wants the person's head to decorate the windshield. The speaker also insults this person, telling them that they've "seen more spine on jellyfish" and :more guts on eleven-year-old kids." The guttural roar at the end of the song is another indication of the tone of distain and vengeance. I think the basic understanding of the piece is that some friend or other person of significance has screwed the speaker over or backstabbed him in some way. One literary device that I found particularly powerful that also contributes to the tone is the asides in the poem. He tells the former "best friend" to "choke and die!" The speaker has intense negative feelings.