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Our first topic of discussion for the year will be character endings....what did you think of the ending of your summer reading? Did you feel at one with your character walking off into the sunset or did you think the author completely missed the boat and a golden opportunity to fully develop the character? Was it a great injustice that Magwitch died the way he did or was it perfect? Should Miss Havisham have started dating again by enrolling in Match.com or is it fine that she went out in a "blaze" of glory? The list is endless.
Sooooooo...choose a character's ending and discuss. Make sure to address your angst or happiness.
Mischley
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My hatred for The Awakening grew to monstrous proportions when I read the last page only to exclaim... WHAT?!?!
I thought Edna as a whole was meant to be unlikeable, but even so, I do not believe that killing herself off is a justified ending. In literature, sometimes suicide does make sense, depending on the character and the situation, but her demise just baffled me. Sure, the guy she loved so dearly has apparently left, and her family has gone, but besides that she had no reason to kill herself. Throughout the novel she did not yield any sure signs of depression or suicidal tendencies, so I thought suicide was just a cop-out. It was an easy way out for such a frustrating character. I thought that while Edna clearly was an independent and self-absorbed being, that she must have some grain of soul left within her. She surely could have gone back to her family, apologized, and made up for her bad choices. She still had children that needed a mother, and there was always time for her to step up and take responsibility.
Suicide just seemed like a mediocre end to a mediocre life. The ending left me feeling like I had wasted my time, like there was no change within Edna's character. She was a selfish, bad mother right from the beginning and then finally succumbs to a selfish end, abandoning her children for herself. There was no redeeming quality to Edna, and I thought she deserved some form of punishment, but death was not a self-inflicted punishment, it was just further hurt for the victims of the novel - her husband and children.
I just wished Chopin had written a conclusion that was insightful and worthy of Edna's character. It just seemed too easy.
I agree with Amy. Edna's end seemed like a cop-out.
It sort of felt like a cop-out in The Diagnosis as well, with the ambiguous ending that left a million questions in the air. I'm not sure why the author chose to do this, or how it relates to the book. I think the point of the book was to show how technology is taking over the world and destroying us. All the characters have these relationships with technology (Bill's job, Alex's classes, Bill's wife online affair and her compulsive keyboard clicking) but no relationships with each other. In that sense, I suppose it's fitting that Bill collapses in on himself and becomes nothing. And I guess the idea was that he was losing his connection to the world?
And I'm guessing it was technology that literally did this to him because I'm guessing it was that really random machine that appeared earlier in the book and then vanished. I'm pretty sure that Bill isn't insane. He's just a normal guy the way I see it. Even if he wasn't, losing all of your senses because of a mental issue seems kind of...weak.
My point is I felt like this wasn't the story to have an ambiguous ending. Say...Inception. It works because the movie's about dreams, which are ambiguous. That makes sense. But The Diagnosis? Unless it's this twisted idea of "Life goes on" I'm not sure I get it.
I really look forward to discussing this book in class.
I thought Miss Havisham ending should have been better. She was a bitter lady throughout the whole novel. Ever since she was jilting by Compeyson on her supposed wedding day she has never been the same. She raised Estalla to get revenge on all men. One man she planed to get revenge on was Pip, but as the novel continues Miss Havisham's relationship becomes stronger. She ends up feeling bad that Pip's heart was broken and wanted forgiveness. Because of this change I would have like to have seen her with a happy ending. She was starting to change. I believe she was nice deep down but was hurt too bad. The ending would have been better, in my opinion, if she got her life back. It was as if she stopped living after her supposed wedding day. She was really a good person and deserved to have that side show again. I would have liked the ending better if she helped Pip end up with Estella. She was really not an evil person so it would have been nice to see her get over her tragic event and be married.
I agree with both Amy and Nick.
The ending to The Awakening was a complete let-down and I expected so much more from the writer. I thought it was gonna be some big dramatic great ending and it wasn't. She just gets naked on a beach, walks out into the ocean, and just keeps swimming out until she drowns herself.
I was very disappointed with that ending and was hoping there would have been more to the ending. Instead of her just going out and drowning herself they could have written something better and more dramatic. They should make an alternate ending to that, something bigger and better so the end of the novel isn't such a let-down for every reader.
The one reason I disliked The Diagnosis was because I continued to read thinking there would be some type of huge revelation of some sort. As I got to the end I realized that wouldn't happen.
Overall, I was sympathetic to each of the characters. I understood that Bill was a workaholic and was not able to spend most of his time with his family. I understood that Melissa was lonely and she needed someone who was there to talk to. I understood that Alex wanted to have a close relationship with his father. What I did not understand was why Bill's illness was never fully explained.
I had thought that his illness could have come from a number of things such as stress from work, that mysterious machine in the hospital, or something that Melissa had done and had gone unexplained. Although I am not quite sure what type of revelation I was expecting, I just thought there would be some type of disclosure for Bill.
I agree with Colleen about the demise of Miss Havisham, but I have other issues with Great Expectations.
The ending is somewhat of a disappointment for me because throughout the novel Pip shows his love and admiration for Estella, and Dickens never explicitly confirms that they end up happily ever after (not to get too fairy tale ending on you, but I do love happy endings.
After a long separation, Pip and Estella meet at the old garden, which I think is ridiculous because what are the chances that Pip and Estella decide to visit that same day after Pip has been gone for eleven years and Estella has not visited for years, but she is only there to see it one last time before it is gone?
In the end, she confesses that she had thought fondly of Pip too. Dickens should have made it so that they would become a couple and kiss or something to leave the readers happy and satisfied. However, that could not have happened because of what Miss Havisham did, raising Estella to break men's hearts. Also, Dickens wants to make an ending that would cause years of debate and analysis. Estella says that they "will remain friends apart", which makes me think they separate, but the lines "I saw no shadow of another parting from her" implies that there is hope that they end up to be together.
It just bothers me that Dickens made the ending so obscure…
I agree with Alex on The Diagnosis. I felt frusturated that the author never fully developed Bill's condition. He simply explained a list of symptoms, along with doctors visit after doctors visit, leaving the reader waiting for a final revealation. However, this was never achieved. I felt frusturated along with Bill that his disease could not be diagnosed, and I believe that I would have enjoyed the book more had there been a more complete end result.
Towards the end of the book, it is not exactly clear if Bill dies, or if he is slowly, listlessly, continuing to slip away. Throughout the novel, Bill is depicted as very weak and helpless, while seeming to have a great deal of lost potential.
I felt that Melissa appeared whiney and selfish throughout the book. She seemed to go through mood swings of loving and caring passionately about her husband, and then only thinking of herself and complaining about the toll his disease takes upon her life.
My favorite character in The Diagnosis was Alex. Alex, Bill's smart, hopeful, optimistic son is well beyond his years in knowledge and maturity. He seems to fully understand the seriousness of his father's condition. He does whatever possible to help him, such as reading and replying to his work e-mails, and searching for possible diagnosises on the internet.
Edna did not just get naked and die, Hayley. The ocean was her freedom. Remember when she swam in there for a really long time? It was the only place where she had full control, where she could do whatever she wanted. Fitting it consumes her, no? She's someone who went too far and then boom, dead. I don't think she thought it through. She was a child and didn't think of the consequence of her actions. Actually, I think that might be a very fitting death for her.
I'm not sure if the writer did that on purpose though.
Also, if anyone feels like responding to this, aren't Pip's endings both happy? One, he gets a girl who changed, the other? He moves on with his life. The original ending which I think fits the tone of the story a little more, and is very powerful.
Just saying.
Throughout the Awakening, I could not handle my hatred for Edna. She has a perfect life and all she does is complain about how she is trapped. If you feel trapped then you can get out, simple as that. There is no need to go all psychotic and decide oh hey I am going to kill myself today. Maybe if she wasn't so promiscuous and cheated on her husband every chapter Robert wouldn't have left her at the end. Edna is not only an awful wife but she is quite possibly the worst mother ever. She did not care about her children and felt relieved when they were gone. Of course, Chopin's reasons for all of Edna's dislikable qualities consist of showing how her life is affected by what social class you're in. Edna is higher up in the social ranking and when she chooses to rebel like she does it looks bad not only for her but for her husband and famaily. However, Edna is just so stupid and selfish. Her great life consisted of a beautiful husband and children. When she kills herself she just deserts them all because her scandelous affair goes to an end because he understands that she is actually married. Maybe Edna should realize shes married too.
I was completely disappointed with Edna's destiny because I figured that her actual story in the novel would have a purpose. I have mixed feelings about it. The symbolism of the water and the sea was brilliant, but at the same time I hate how thats how she died. I just feel like her suicide was a major let down for women in general, which sends a bad message to self-concious femanists. People who are too scared to fight for what they believe in now have a reason to give up. Edna's defeat was not only her own but for all women trying to escape societies opinion.
In the end, she got what she wanted. Of course Edna got what she wanted. I wanted Edna to be punished because of her affairs and her emotional abandonment from her children. But in the end, she was happy, which made me sad. All she did was complain, argue, and cry. When I was reading this novel, I already disliked it because half of it was in French. But Edna's exsistance just made it so much worse. I want to discuss this book because I do honestly have mixed feelings about Edna and how I feel about the novel as a whole. But right now, in this mood, Edna's downfall was an embarrassment to all women trying to fight for themselves.
Pip's ending in Great Expectations impacted me the most so lets start there.
Before I talk about how I liked his ending I want to harp on how I like his character development as a whole.
Essentially, Pip is the perfect teen character. And by perfect I mean he best represents teenagers entirely. he shows the carefree innocence of youth, to the corruption of the adult world, to the final balance every person needs to make in their life between their thoughts and emotions and the real world. Pip begins as as the stereotypical [or rather ideal]
modern 10 year old. He is kind, quiet, and respectful of others. All this changes when Pip meets Estella and learns that he is in fact considered 'common.' It nags at him and he feels he has to change his social standings to make it in life. He tries, and eventually realizes that his 'great expectations' lead him to become an awful person.
Now to his ending.
The fact that he comes full circle in the novel is important. When he finally realizes near the end with Magwitch's death what he has become and all he has done in vain because of money and social fame, he is rather upset with himself for letting himself become such a person. This realization leads to a great maturity for his character as a whole. I thought of his character to be a boy, but at the end he becomes a man when he comes to terms with his life and is honest about Estella to Magwitch. That scene is especially important to his character because it is the first thing he does for someone else in a good forty five plus chapters.
The book sort of leaves Pip there, at the threshold of manhood with a clear conscience and fresh start to life. His ending [this is where I get cheesy] is not an ending, but rather a new beginning, which is why I was pleased with the way the novel ended.
Kudos to you Pip, you're no longer the arrogant jerk you used to be.
This might make me seem a little bit on the immature side, but we're honest on Mischley's Blog, so here it goes. If I don't like the ending of a novel, I generally find to dislike it, and if the ending is not happy, I do not like it. In my mind, the ending of all novels should be happy and joyfull, without a stitch of mystery as to if the characters end up happy. This is why I disliked 'The Great Gatsby', and it is also why I disliked 'Great Expectations'. The ending should have ended like this: Pip and Estella's wedding, with everyone there; Miss Havashim, Joe, Magwitch, and all the rest. Mr. Dickens, I think you should use this ending for the next edition of 'Great Expectations'.
Sincerley,
Corey
I didn't lke the book really because the way dicken's wrote.I did not like the fact that he gave Pip another name or that they had other meanings.But I did think the ending was good because he understood money is not everything. It is nice tohave money but it is also true that money is not everything. I also liked how all the characters connected in some way. I liek when authors do that I think it adds to the story and makes you think.
I think that the ending of The Grapes of Wrath was not only weird, but also a missed chance for more development. I want to know more about what happened when Tom leaves and how the family survives the Great Depression. Even the it is very symbolic, I want to see how this birth plays out. The Joads spend the whole book trying to better their lives and getting nowhere.I know that eventually the country recovers but Stienbeck just leaves us at a cliffhanger. I really enjoyed the book and I want to know what happens next. I guess the whole leave it off at a new beginning thing was a symbol of hope and rebirth of humanity during and inhumane time.
Gino says....
"I think the ending to Great Expectations was like the end of the Sopranos, it answered some questions but left many unanswered. I feel that if Magwitch had not died it would have been cheesy and very un-Dickens like. Also, Miss Havisham would not have gotten any hits on Match.com.
I felt that the end of the novel was very accurate in portreying what Miss Havasham felt. She was finally at peace with herself at the end of the novel. I wish that she could have lived since she did realize her wrongings towards others. I think that had she lived, the people who are important to her life would have learned to forgive her for the way she had perveioulsy acted.
I am terribly disgusted with Magwitch's ending even though Magwitch was given peace of mind through Pip before his death. In my opinion I felt that since Pip's ending was a disappointment, that ending should have been made up with a better ending for Magwitch. I think that Magwitch should have escaped and later be visitd by a married Pip and Estella which would mean all the world to him.
If not this ending then atleast have Pip marry Estella it was such a pity that after all that hard work and good moral changes he went through near the end he was not rewarded with the one person he loved most. That is my opinion about not only Magwitch but Pip also
Alyssa.....Magwitch's character in Great Expectations exemplifies a man of guilt and also sympathy. In this way, he grew up as an orphan and got mixed in with the wrong type of people. From here he became a well known convict in the town has everyone knew him for stealing food and other goods. Although he was poor and broken down from his childhood he saw many similarities of himself within Pip.
Years after his last encounter with Pip he leaves to work on a field. As he makes his money he chooses to be an anonymous benefactor to Pip as an attempt to serve a better life than he had experienced. I think that his decision to keep his name a secret created a mystery of the benefactor which changed Pips character.Pip intends to seek his benefactor to thank him. He actually appreciates his fortune so much that he forgets his limits and puts himself into debt. Upon finding Magwitch was the benefactor he finds himself in a pityful situation. He does not understand how Magwitch, a poor convict, could become such as asset to Pips future. Soon he is obliged to keep Magwitch safe as he hides from enforcement. I believe Magwitch is an example of hidden good within the characters throughout Dickens novel.
At the end of Great Expectations I thought the end of Magwitch's life was the perfect end. He got to find out that he daughter was really alive from a person that he treated as if he was a son. He knew that Pip would have a good life but knowing that Pip really admired his daughter was another thing that he was immensley proud of. He also died knowing that Compeyson was also dead and he would no longer be a bother to Pip. This gave him immense closure. Magwitch's death was perfet for him and I am sure that he died in peace.
I feel as though the novel left off at Pip and Estella walking into the sunset because no one knew if they would get together or not. We knew that Pip had feelings for Estella and we also knew that things were not going well inbetween Estella and Drummle. I also thought that it was unfortunate that Magwitch died because towards the end Pip cared for him and Magwitch really changed Pip's life by what he did for him. I also feel as though Miss. Havisham should not have gone down in flames, but instead tried to date someone because she wasted so many years of her life mourning and making other people's lives hell because of what her fiancee did to her. At the end of the novel, she later realizes it and how she could have changed it.
Pip's ending angered me the most because things are unclear to what is happening between him and Estlla, are they together or are they just friends? We spend more than half of the book waiting for them to fall in love, and now we never know what happens, we can only speculate. Pip falls in love with Estella gradually as he is at Miss Havishams house, however Estella continues to criticize him and put him down. She finally gives us a hint that she cares for him in saying to stay away from her because she doesnt understand the human heart. At the very end when they meet she tells him she now knows what love is and they walk off into the sunset, never revealing their fate. A better ending to this book would have been showing their lives together and what actually happened between them.
I was not a fan of the ending of "The Great Expectations". We are left with, the burning of Miss Havisham's home, the death of Magwitch, and the unknowingness of what happens with Estella and Pip. The Satis House, Miss Havisham's house, caught on fire and along with the house burning down, Miss Havisham died. This tragedy is what metaphorically "set Miss Havisham free". And as for Pip and Estella, the reader is informed that Estella had a rough relationship with Drummele and things didn't work out with them, and at the very end, Pip and Estella meet up and walk away together in the sunset. I wish ending could have atleast told the reader that Pip and Estella fell in love becuase im not one that likes not knowing what comes next.
I thought Edna was very drastic in her choices and that's why I thought she was a strong character. She refused to be someone she will never be nor someone that the society around her expects her to be. I thought her choice of suicide (supposedly) was a drastic decision and it really showed everyone how strongly she did feel. She wasn't just whining for attention or because she was a little depressed. She wanted to be truly happy and the only way to do that was to kill herself. I thought the ending fit her because throughout the whole book, Edna never did anything that didn't make a statement. Her suicide was justified because she had been saying all along how she wasn't happy and nobody did anything to help her. They mostly jsut made it worse (Mademe Ratignolle and Robert).
I liked the ending of the book. I liked how Dickens made it so you could either believe that Estella and Pip lived happily ever after, or that they did not remain together. I felt as one with Pip in the respect that he finally got to get the girl that he has been waiting so long for. He has tried to win her over for years by basically transforming himself into a gentleman. By him finally getting Estella made me happy because all of his hard work and sacrifices payed off.
No one chose Jane Eyre yet? She was one of my favorite characters and I feel like her ending should have been more rewarding. She was like Cinderella with an evil stepmother and siblings. She had a book thrown at her head and then was locked in the Red Room after all! Then she gets sent off to a horrible boarding school for orphans where many students die of typhus. I just feel like she went through such horrible times in her childhood and then is tortured by living with a man she loves but can't have. I am a firm believer in karma, and she deserved a much happier ending. Sure, she ends up with Rochester in but he's blind! I would have been happier if he became dirt poor but could at least see Jane. Jane never acts selfishly, so I just don't appreciate the way Charlotte Bronte seems to torture Jane throughout the novel.
In one way, I like how Great Expectations ended, since Pip and Estella's fates were left up to the reader for interpretation. However, I believe some of the endings, such as Herbert's perfect and happy ending were a little bit rushed, in that Pip only told a recap of the events later in Herbert's life. Magwitch's death was actually delivered perfectly; between his weakness and frailty, and dying in Pip's arms. It could be considered an allusion to how at the beginning of the novel, Pip's life was in Magwitch's (aka the convict) hands. However, the tables are turned, and Magwitch's life is in Pip's hands. Miss Havisham really chould have considered trying to start again. Although she was devastated by the scheme of her fiancee and her brother, she should have been strong enough to forgive and forget, instead of living her whole life in the vain pursuit of attaining revenge on every man.
I thought that the ending of Great Expectations was the perfect final chapter to Pip's journey from boyhood to manhood. Throughout the novel we see Pip fall from an innocent boy with simple pleasures and well intentions and become caught in the glamor and riches in life. Yet when he fully has become a gentleman he realizes the terrible things money has done to him. The ending of the book finds Pip an older stable man who works hard and has found a comfortable life for himself. He is on good terms with Joe as well. He no longer needs Estella, he has grown up and time has passed. Yet when he sees her at the remains of Havishams mansion the story comes full circle. The time for them is finally right because both have lived and suffered enough to realize what is important. I think it was the perfect and logical ending to a coming of age novel.
I was happily surprised by the ending of Jane Eyre and would not have it any other way. Upon reaching the ending, I had this feeling of disappointment growing because I thought she’d see Rochester for the last time, become overcome with feelings, and give up everything for him (cheesy ending to such a dramatic book). Everything that she had done prior to this part would be meaningless, and the book a huge disappointment. BUT IT WAS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE! Her absence from him was used to build herself up, to become independent and gain self stability. What’s even better is that the roles in the relationship switch – she wears the pants. Before, she felt uneasy with all the lavish gifts and proposals that Rochester presented her with. And even though he promised to take care of her, Jane was not one to be dependent on others. With Rochester’s injuries and loss of a large sum of his estate, Jane and Rochester were finally on the same level. He could provide a home and income, while she could care for and help to rehabilitate him. The reader is presented with a happy ending, accompanied with some losses, but throughout the novel, Jane stays true to herself and that’s what made it so memorable.
I personally thought that the ending to Great Expectations was very fitting. Throughout the book Dickens builds up Pip and Estella`s relationship into something that is twisted and sickening, but towards the end it becomes more normal. Pip and Estella meet in the garden at the torn down Satis House. This to me, the tearing down of the house, is like removing the wrong that was done in the past. With the past forgotten, Pip and Estella can finally have their life together. I like that the ending is vague. It allows your imagination to run wild and the ending becomes whatever you want it to be. Therefore, what is written above is just my interpretation of the final chapter.
How much do I love Katie's response of " I could not hamdle my hatred for her..."....let's put her and Edna in a room together to "wrassle it out" ! Now that's some real feeling evoked by a read!
I found the ending of "Great Expectations" to be bittersweet. Miss Havisham's ending was upsetting because after all the years of attempting to get revenge on men through Estella, she finally realzied that she truly hurt Pip because he had actually fallen for Estella, hard. By the time she had realized her mistake it was too late to fix it because she burned in the fire. I also found it a little strange how Biddy and Joe get married because Biddy was always head over heels in love with Pip and now she was married to his brother-in-law? I just found some parts to be strange, but all in all i enjoyed the wrap up.
The author completely missed a chance to fully develop Pip's character. Dickens had the chance to complete Pip whether he ended up with Estella or not. I'm sure that all of the readers wished he ended up with Estella but everyone was left unknowing. I feel that Magwitch's death was unnecessary and didn't need to be in the novel. Dickens should have left Magwitch in the novel and constantly had him running from the law. Miss Havisham was perfectly set off to go out in a "blaze of glory." The meaning of that is that is that good with trump evil. Miss Havisham represented good and the fire represented good.
Overall, I liked reading Great Expectations and the way it ended because throughout the book you were able to see Pip grow up and change. But when it came to the end, Pip’s story ended where it started. He realized that money does not equal happiness.
As for Miss. Havisham, I think Dickens should have let her character develop more in the book. Throughout the novel, she is a bitter old woman that lives an unhappy life. She even plans to take revenge on all men by making Estella hate them. But when she finally realizes what she has done to Estella, she dies. I think Dickens should have had her turn her life around before she died.
I do believe that Miss Havisham's end was pretty perfect for her theme of darkness and isolation. She lives her life after the betrayal of her male comrades in a horrific house filled only with darkness but lit by the small candle of hope. Then when the fire starts and burns her wedding dress and allows light to enter the house it allows light into her soul as well in her final forgiveness. Very phoenix-like in my mind and a respectable ending to a dark character.
I do believe that Miss Havisham's end was pretty perfect for her theme of darkness and isolation. She lives her life after the betrayal of her male comrades in a horrific house filled only with darkness but lit by the small candle of hope. Then when the fire starts and burns her wedding dress and allows light to enter the house it allows light into her soul as well in her final forgiveness. Very phoenix-like in my mind and a respectable ending to a dark character.
I do believe that Miss Havisham's end was pretty perfect for her theme of darkness and isolation. She lives her life after the betrayal of her male comrades in a horrific house filled only with darkness but lit by the small candle of hope. Then when the fire starts and burns her wedding dress and allows light to enter the house it allows light into her soul as well in her final forgiveness. Very phoenix-like in my mind and a respectable ending to a dark character.
I agree with what Colleen says. I think Miss Havisham's ending was unfit for her as a whole. I don't think her going out in a literal blaze of inglorious hate was really fitting for her. Maybe I'm naive and want to see the best in her but I really think that she wasn't always a wicked, corrupted mind. Being ditched at the altar was clearly too much for her psyche to handle but still, I would have been more satisfied with Dickens if she had some sort of retribution. Possibly if she was alive to see Pip and Estella together after all, she may have had an awakening and could have lived out the rest of her days in some type of peace.
A little late, iknow. But the ending for Great Expectations...i hated it. I hate the whole cliche walking off into the sunset holding hands. It's dumb. It's alomost as if Dickenscouldn'
t decide on an ending so he left it up for the reader. I guess in a way that can be good and creative, but in a way it;s also lazy. In no way can I call Dickens lazy though. Do you see how fat the book is? I don't know.. it's just not quite how I wanted it to end. Miss Havisham's "death" (burning then dying shortly thereafter) was creative, sybolic, and interesting. Then when it comes to Estella and Pip, Dickens craps out. Since the rest is up to me, I'd probably have them not end up together. First, because I'm not one for romance. And second, Pip could do so much better. It would be more mature for him to walk away and realize the past is the past, and he needs to move on from a girl that played games. Overall word to describe the ending: ehh.
Ok, I really did not like The Awakening and I really disliked Edna. Therefore, I totally agree with Amy and I disagree with the ending. I feel like Edna had no reason to kill herself. First of all, she had so much in life and the whole book I thought she was just full of complaints and annoying. She had 2 kids and her family was rich and she had so much. I understand if she wasn't happy with her life or that she didn't love her husband and did not agree with her expectations as a mother or woman, but still, killing herself was a little extreme. I feel like she had other options or could have changed her ways. Maybe it wouldn't have done any good to talk things over with her husband but she didn't even try. I feel like suicide was also selfish because she left her children without a mother. Maybe I'm being harsh but Kate Chopin just did not portray Edna as a character that I'd feel sympathy towards.
I feel that the ending did not do enough justice to the book in general. I believed that the point of Pip's relentless want for Estella was that he would never have her. But the ending shows him with her.
I feel that the way Magwitch died was appropriate. He got revenge on Compeyson, which was his goal since the beginning of the novel.
I doubt Miss Havisham would ever have been happy, even if she had dated. But she was at peace when she died, so her death in the story did not bother me. She was a horrible woman anyways.
I'm happy that most of the supporting characters found happiness.
ALEX IANNITELLI - I think it would have added a nice twist to the ending of the book if Orlick successfully killed Pip. What would have happened to rest of the story? How would the other characters react? Its and interesting topic and it would be really cool to find out what would happen.
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